Letter to the Editor: This is why I will be keeping my guns to protect my family

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OPINION — I wrote a letter to the editor of St. George News a few weeks ago on America divided and the aftermath of the tragedy of the Feb. 15 shooting in Florida has shown how divided this nation really has become: One side blaming guns and the other side blaming mental illness.

Perhaps we should be blaming Nikolas Cruz and the culture that produced him. It’s not like guns all of a sudden became widespread. I had guns as an adolescent and every household in my neighborhood had a bunch of guns, even semiautomatic rifles like Cruz used to kill 17 of his peers.

So, what is different now? Young men are different. The social norms that protected us all have decayed. Expectations of a free pass into adulthood has changed. Feelings of entitlement have changed. Accountability for actions have changed. Protecting children from everything well into their third decade is a big change.

Of course I blame our cultural decay on the liberals who love power more than truth, diversity more than conformity and labeling more than discussion.

Cruz felt entitled to act out his aggression at any cost with no regard for consequence. Liberal educators have felt undervalued for a long time and they have passed their poison on to young troubled minds.

No amount of gun laws will solve America’s decline. Anyone trying to right the ship is going to encounter enormous pushback.

Liberals are unknowingly creating anarchy. The most liberal pockets in America are full of debt, crime and deviance but the tentacles reach into every corner of our society and the internet allows spread of distorted expectations to vulnerable millennials who reinforce each other against proven norms.

It’s going to be hard to clean things up. Young minds have been indoctrinated with liberal socialist global ideology which has historically failed repeatedly but is still espoused by the left.

For the left to demonize the National Rifle Association while excusing Nikolas Cruz, law enforcement and our schools is blind, but failure to recognize the cultural decline under eight years of liberal rule might be fatal.

Because Cruz personifies the millennial mindset, I will be keeping my guns to protect my family against anarchy.

The democratic process is under attack from the left and civility has given way to protest, resistance and lawlessness. See you on the shooting range.

Submitted by CRAIG DAVIS, Washington City.

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93 Comments

  • Henry February 25, 2018 at 12:18 pm

    I’m a Liberal. I own guns. I take offense to those who blame this on partisan politics. Raising the ownership age to 21, requiring background checks for all commercial sales (gun shows included), better response to reports of threats – all common sense approaches to a national problem. We need to make it a little harder for mass shooters to get ahold of guns.

    AR-15’s have no place in the average person’s possession. If a gun man can shoot 45+ people on an army base (2009) where they store military grade weapons, what makes you think everyone should have access to them? Why do we need them – is Bambi packing? The right to bear arms is in our constitution, but this was long before the automatic rifles were invented.

    I support gun ownership. I don’t support assault weapons, mentally ill and/or unbalanced people owning guns. I don’t support guns in schools – l would question whether a cop would mistake a teacher for a shooter… and we have school police. According to TeachingDegree.org, our teachers in George make an average of $35k vs Provo (+10,000) & SLC (+20,000). Before we arm them, let’s pay them a living wage commensurate with their education & pay for supplies, etc.

    Pew research study 2016 showed that St George salaries rank 2nd lowest in the nation. We are losing our best & brightest to anywhere else – this is a more pertinent conversation than arming teachers.

    There are smart ways to do things- but constantly blaming Liberals for all that’s wrong is short-sighted & ignores a serious issue. We have more in common with each other than we have that divides us. Let’s put aside the anger, blame, childish finger-pointing and allow our kids to get back to learning.

    • Mike February 25, 2018 at 7:10 pm

      Well if you know guns then you should know an AR-15 IS NOT AN ASSUALT RIFLE! Mr. gun owner what would you consider .223 mini 14 Ruger? We shouldn’t own those either I suppose? You should get educated on weapons before you type!

      • comments February 25, 2018 at 8:13 pm

        Has the idiot john created a new name? How is a rapid fire .223 with a high-cap mag not an assault rifle? mini 14 and AR are most def both assault rifles. Maybe you idiots think it takes a belt-fed .308 machine gun to qualify as an ASSAULT RIFLE? The AR has proven time and time again to be an effective mass killing weapon. How is it not an ASSAULT RIFLE? Trolls. When is the circus coming to town?

        • Mike February 26, 2018 at 7:43 am

          Well let’s see how smart you are on weapons! If you are able to copy and paste go find the true definition of “assault rifle” and post it! I’m waiting!

          • comments February 26, 2018 at 8:16 am

            woohoo! the wait is over!

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault%20rifle

            Definition of assault rifle
            : any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic fire; also : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

          • John February 26, 2018 at 8:40 am

            Mike, You get it and understand about firearms, Liberals just parrot what the democrats and MSM tell them to think. Don’t be upset about the firestorm you set off because you are correct. Most of them eat tide pods and don’t know which bathroom to use. I just enjoy the melting snowflakes. Comments always forgets to engage his brain before he types, it must really suck to go through life being afraid of some plastic trim. Comments thinks his purple prius goes faster because he put flame stickers on the fenders.

        • John February 26, 2018 at 8:25 am

          Hey. stupid comments , here’s a small lesson in firearms , YOU don’t have a clue just like most brainwashed liberals.
          The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:
          Semi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.

          • Mike February 26, 2018 at 9:13 am

            Whooooray! John is correct! So funny Websters definition!

          • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 9:14 am

            John laws aren’t passed based on what the US Army says, they are based on lawmakers. So your “the army said this” defense does not work, try again Grunt.

          • Mike February 26, 2018 at 9:55 am

            Hey “no filter” look up what an assault rifle is, according to law, in 1994 when they were banned. Waiting!

          • John February 26, 2018 at 10:02 am

            nobrains..The military does not classify the AR15 as an assault rifle..therefore it is not an assault rifle. Assault / Automatic weapons have been banned from private ownership since 1936. All this smoke and mirrors you see as of late is a Liberal attack on the 2nd Amendment. Too bad you are falling for it, you let the media tell you what to think and are completely oblivious to any truth or facts as demonstrated by your comment. Keep coloring !

          • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 11:09 am

            Automatic weapons are not banned in the United States, correction not banned in many states. Once again no facts to back up your words.

          • Mike February 26, 2018 at 11:33 am

            You, no filter, don’t even know what an automatic weapon is! Must be something that automatically shoots people! Hilarious!

          • John February 26, 2018 at 11:40 am

            nobrains.. automatic weapons ARE banned in the US ..semi automatic weapon are not.. learn about what you are talking about before you engage your mouth. you sound like a clueless leftist who gets your facts from the view..hahahahahaha!

          • Mike February 26, 2018 at 12:01 pm

            No filter you said banned in many states! Duuuuu! Now you just changed your mind! Snowflake!!

          • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 1:22 pm

            Automatic weapons sales have been restricted in the United States since the 1934 National Firearms Act was passed. Regulations put in place in 1986 made it much more difficult for civilian buyers to get an automatic weapon. You can still purchase an automatic weapon, because existing guns manufactured before May 19, 1986, were grandfathered in. That amounts to somewhere around 300,000 registered automatic weapons. To buy a fully automatic rifle, a prospective owner must pay the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms $200 and pass a federal background check that shows no record of domestic violence or felony convictions.
            As for Mike the assault weapons banned expired in 2004 and only a few states have passed there own laws. So yes assault weapons are still legal in all but a few states. Is there anything else I have to spoon feed you on my knowledge of weapons and the laws surrounding them.

          • Mike February 26, 2018 at 5:45 pm

            Still waiting for your definition of “automatic weapon”? Hellooooooooo!

    • Mike February 26, 2018 at 8:43 am

      Well I said true definition! ! I would think the “military” definition. Pretty simple! I’m waiting!

  • comments February 25, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    A lot of this is copied almost word for word from one of the commenters here. Give credit where credit is due, Craig; these aren’t your original ideas.

    I do agree with the premise though. Far leftist ideology has become very toxic, with its anything goes mentality and very poor moral direction.

    And it isn’t just “the left”. The right wing has been corrupt to the core for as long as I can remember– greed, power and excess is what drives the R party, always trying to screw the little guy.

    And this overconnected internet age seems to breed a new social toxicity that I would say isn’t partisan at all. Blaming “the liberals” is a very cliched cop out. It’s actually simpleminded and idiotic.

    • comments February 25, 2018 at 12:24 pm

      I should say it’s copied almost word for word from at least two of the commenters here.

  • comments February 25, 2018 at 12:32 pm

    But I will say: I suspect the msm’s push for a giant gov’t gun grab has ulterior motives than “saving schoolchildren from gun violence”. MSM has never been shy about pushing this country into massive wars, so we know they aren’t “anti-violence” at the end of the day. Sometimes their agendas are unclear. But msm has proven to have no conscience, so “saving schoolchildren from gun violence” is an absurd agenda coming from them. So you have to wonder what sort of ‘end game’ they’re really pushing.

  • Steve February 25, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Hey Craig, you really need to get a grip. Your lack of critical thinking ability is on full display for everyone to see. The blaming of liberalism and the left for most of the problems in American society is truly a pathetic and weak argument. It’s likely too late for you to learn critical thinking skills because you have been imprinted with the dual Conservative curses of “willful ignorance” and “conscientious stupidity”.

    • desertgirl February 25, 2018 at 4:38 pm

      Sorry Stevo, there is no such thing as a critical thinking liberal/leftist/Democrat.; sheep cannot think period.

      • bikeandfish February 25, 2018 at 6:22 pm

        So many trolls on this site spouting clogosphere talking points.

        • John February 27, 2018 at 9:30 am

          Why are you here then bikeandfish? You are the leader of the long winded blowhard clogospheres !

      • John February 26, 2018 at 11:26 am

        You are so right desertgirl, to be a liberal is to give up critical thinking and just believe anything the borg tells you.. Tide pods, Kool-aid, crayons and watching MSNBC are a large part of their day ! Steve put baseball cards in the spokes of his bike and now he thinks it’s a motorcycle.

        • bikeandfish February 26, 2018 at 1:22 pm

          Ironic given you think eating Tide pods is actually all that common. Critical thinking isn’t consistent with regurgitating that insult or Koolaid, etc. Everything you “write” here are talking points from some website. For example, your copy and paste about assault weapons.

          Desetgirl is a troll who adds nothing substantive to these threads. I’m guessing that’s why you like her.

          • John February 27, 2018 at 9:38 am

            You have been into them for quite some time. Just because you have a thesaurus doesn’t ever make you right. Most of the time everybody disagrees with you. Your replies are longwinded and pointless. And apparently you do not know the difference between an automatic /assault weapon and a legal semi automatic sporting rifle.
            Fully automatic weapons are highly regulated under both federal and state law. Only licensed entities are permitted to manufacture, sell, or own them. Private civilian ownership of machine guns is illegal unless the individual has been explicitly permitted by the federal ATF to own them. All fully automatic weapons must be registered with the federal government in a central registry with no exceptions. A special tax is levied on all NFA items (machine guns, suppressors, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, and destructive devices) with no exceptions.
            These are not my opinions. They are cold, hard facts about gun laws in the United States.

  • lcambridge February 25, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    There needs to be an insurance on guns… like cars… then the insurance companies can decide who is just enough to hold weapons… cause the liability of it has created a terror in american society.. this would also cut down on the amounts a guns a owner would want to possess… the cost to pay a monthly insurance on multiple guns would evntually eat a hole in someones pocket… also every gun owner should be allowed to sell the guns back to manufacturer at no loss to pocket.. this would cut the sale to people on craigslist and tradio… the idea of a full coverage insurance on guns isnt a bad idea… the fact it is harder to get helth insurance than it is to get a gun is ridiulous..

  • PogoStik February 25, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    “The democratic process is under attack by liberals….” claims Craig Davis, the writer of this letter. I’m sorry to hear that that this person is so paranoid that he sees liberals under every rock and behind every bush. Today I could not think of few politicians or groups who really identifies itself as a liberal. Bernie Saners is the only one that comes to mind, but not many people pay attension to him, so I don’t really think he is attacking our democracy. Can any of our readers name a few other liberals who are threateing us? I’d like to hear some names here. I think any threat to our democracy is coming from big money like the Koch Brothers and other greedy special interest groups. People in our current government who collude or collaborate with the Russians are probably the greater threat to our democracy rather than nameless “liberals”.

    • John February 27, 2018 at 9:43 am

      Lliberals are paranoid and having a cringe fit because of plastic trim on sporting rifle. Before long they will be trying to ban carrying black PVC on your roof rack because it tuns your car into an assault prius…MSM induced paranoia..they fall for it every time

  • bikeandfish February 25, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    The logic expressed here would be hilarious if it wasn’t the symptom of our worst issues. Specifically, your statements value party over substance and truth or said differently you stance is about the power in constantly blaming the “other side.”

    First, you state “Of course I blame our cultural decay on the liberals who love… labeling more than discussion”. Then you go onto grossly stereotype and label: liberal socialist global ideology, Liberal educators, cultural decline under eight years of liberal rule, millennial mindset, etc. Your essay exemplifies the the content of your aforementioned criticism. Its a lazy rhetoric that shortcuts civil discourse in favor of personal bias. Instead of giving detailed, thoughtful, nuanced ideas for readers to digest you feed the worst of partisan demagoguery with prejudicial and sloppy language. It leaves a critical thinker wondering if you have any evidence to support your narrow ideology.

    Would love to see the evidence that Cruz’s educators were liberal. Please do share. And recognize, the simple gross-generalizations about liberal academia won’t fulfill that expectation. We need to see that you actually have evidence to back up your strong assertion that about said specific blame. (What you have done is similar to conflating weather with climate)

    Also, I have yet to see anyone, nonetheless everyone of one political ideology relieve Cruz of the accountability that lays at his feet.

    I am curious how democracy and civility are inconsistent with protest and resistance. As I understand it, our country was founded on both of those strategies and actually justifies the 2nd Amendment. The fact is we wouldn’t have some of the most humane democratic qualities without protest and resistance. Your logic is the same rationalization that MLK Jr criticized in his Letter from Birmingham Jail, ie being “more devoted to “order” than to justice.”

    If you truly value civil discourse than I recommend no longer engaging in such bigoted rhetoric and actually work with others you disagree with instead of demonizing such broad swaths of society.

    I think its fair to end with two quotes from that Letter given its Black History Month and MLK Jr remains a prophetic voice:

    “Nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and establish such creative tension that a community that has constantly refused to negotiate is forced to confront the issue. … Just as Socrates felt that it was necessary to create a tension in the mind so that individuals could rise from the bondage of myths and half-truths to the unfettered realm of creative analysis and objective appraisal, we must we see the need for nonviolent gadflies to create the kind of tension in society that will help men rise from the dark depths of prejudice and racism to the majestic heights of understanding”

    “One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that “an unjust law is no law at all.”

  • No Filter February 25, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    Please stop letting this idiot write articles, he is so far to the right he makes Fox news look good. Stick to your plastic surgery career.

    • John February 27, 2018 at 9:45 am

      know nothing.. he is so far to the right he easily makes you look wrong..

  • Chris February 25, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    Craig, the biggest threat to our “democratic process” is the piece of crap occupying the White House, whom you inexplicably revere.

  • PogoStik February 25, 2018 at 3:21 pm

    There are many areas in our society that require showing a level of competance before engaging in an activity. For instance:
    * Barbers and hair-stylists need to show their competance by taking a test and getting a state license.
    * Radio amatuers (Hams) can’t broadcast without demonstrating that they know what they are doing and obtaining a license.
    * You need a to take a test and obtain a driver’s license before driving a car.
    * Electricians, plumbers, and building contractors require certification.
    * Even our soldiers must qualify with a weapon before using it.
    And there are many more such activities requiring a similar show of competence.
    Don’t take away guns. Just require some proof of competance for those purchasing them.

    • bikeandfish February 25, 2018 at 6:26 pm

      But we can’t accurately compare Constitutional rights with externalities like professional certifications. They just aren’t the same and ultimately have different legal frameworks. Its also why the health insurance mandate was never appropriately compared to auto insurance (I can choose not to buy a car but had no choice in birth or body).

  • PogoStik February 25, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    … and doesn’t the second amendment say “a well-regulated militia”? Not a militia of deviants, crazies, mentally ill, and and general jerks.

    • desertgirl February 25, 2018 at 4:39 pm

      If we could rid the world of liberals and leftists the violent crime rate would be almost non-existent.

      • No Filter February 25, 2018 at 6:51 pm

        What world are you living in? The last person who had ideas like yours killed millions of Jews. Go make a cake for your klan meeting.

        • John February 26, 2018 at 11:48 am

          Right again desertgirl ! The real danger is the infestation of the misinformed and gender confused liberal left. Clueless, factless, and being controlled by an anti-American media. The dirtbag who killed millions of Jews took away their guns first is the part of the story nobrains doesn’t get..But then again, nobrains wears a towel over his shoulders and thinks he’s Batman ! We should take that seriously??????

  • statusquo February 25, 2018 at 5:17 pm

    My grandmother always said we should count our blessings.

    I’m thankful that most gun owners are not crazy, nuts, whacko, lunatics or whatever term you would use for someone who would wantanly murder innocent, unarmed people. That would be a serious public issue in need of a solution.

    Instead, most gun owners are decent, respectful, even God-honoring citizens of our great nation. We should encourage them to legally arm themselves against the handful of crazy.

  • utahdiablo February 25, 2018 at 8:54 pm

    It all comes down to personal safety…no one will infringe on mine or my familys safety without a loaded response…take that however you wish to

  • commonsense February 25, 2018 at 9:13 pm

    Mr Comments, please give me the precise reference source from which the author copied. Since you liked it, I would like to read it.

    • comments February 25, 2018 at 10:51 pm

      I’m not gonna go read thru old comments, but some of it may have even been yours. It’s in one or more of the recent articles w/ a lot of comments.

      ” Liberal educators have felt undervalued for a long time and they have passed their poison on to young troubled minds.”

      This one here I remember someone putting in the comments, maybe even word for word. If Craig is gonna plagiarize people from the comment section he should at least admit to it. Craig is good at sponging up material and then regurgitating it as if he’s some type of authority. I doubt he is capable of any original thought.

      • bikeandfish February 25, 2018 at 11:30 pm

        If Craig is commonsense then its not plagiarizing. Makes me wonder if he has multiple sock puppet accounts here.

        • comments February 26, 2018 at 12:06 pm

          commonsense once said that he/she was a physician. I tend to doubt they are one and the same. I doubt that commonsense is as big a nitwit as craig. commonsense can be agreeable at times. but who knows….

          • bikeandfish February 26, 2018 at 1:19 pm

            Fair enough.

      • Striker4 February 26, 2018 at 12:28 am

        I keep my guns to protect my family from people like you !

  • commonsense February 25, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    Bikefish, your closing statement leads me to believe that you pick and choose which laws fit your narrative. Mass shooters feel the same way and that why gun laws can’t work. Obama understood this and didn’t push through any gun reform laws or executive orders.

    • bikeandfish February 25, 2018 at 11:09 pm

      What laws have I ignored to fit my narrative? And did you really just compare me to a mass shooter?

      Were did I say gun laws do or do not work? I aim not to make such broad statements in these issues. In fact, I have regularly cited the fact that studies of the previous assault weapons ban have largely been inconclusive and inconsistent for metrics of success.

      I’m not sure where you are getting your information about Obama. He obviously believed in gun control and advocated for it multiple times. He campaigned on reinstating an assault weapons ban in 2012. He wanted to ban magazine capacities above 10. He tried to get Congress to pass gun control multiple times. Those attempts failed. He clearly was not the demon the NRA made him out to be but his philosophy and actions also don’t match your statements.

      All around an odd comment on your part.

    • bikeandfish February 25, 2018 at 11:18 pm

      Did you mean the MLK Jr quote, ie the rephrasing of St Augustine? That isn’t my idea or behavior so much as an example of how the Letter to Editor author’s (you?) idea about civility is inconsistent with our democracy’s history. In spirit, yes, I agree with MLK’s criticisms but I am privileged enough that few laws/enforcement I have encountered are “unjust”. (It does happen, like a police officer trying to use a failure to stop as an excuse to separate and interrogate me and my girlfriend. Charge me with the traffic violation but the maneuver was noticeably unjust, especially given he found no probable cause). Every citizen subjectively interprets the law and follows it according to their values but comparing those types of minor transgressions to mass shooters is erroneous and a pernicious form of political rhetoric. Learn to scale your comments if you ever want to be taken seriously.

  • dodgers February 26, 2018 at 5:21 am

    Regarding the Florida shooting, anger and blame should be primarily directed at Nikolas Cruz. Secondarily, we should be looking at the failure of our FBI and the Broward County Sheriff. Regarding the latter, the Sheriff should tender his resignation and likely a few deputies should be fired. We have laws in place which were broken but not enforced by those responsible and trained to do so. How many lives might have been saved if the FBI and the Broward County Sheriff’s department had done their jobs? Back to Nikolas Cruz–we should be looking at what caused his extreme anger and hatred, while at the same time ensuring he incurs the greatest sentence for his actions.

  • commonsense February 26, 2018 at 8:07 am

    Comments, I thought so. You play loose with the facts and accusations, just make stuff up to fit your whimsical notions.

    You should write an editorial piece but that would require research and putting thoughts together that make sense to others. Vindictive remarks that are unsubstantiated have no place in a public forum.

    • comments February 26, 2018 at 12:10 pm

      commonsense, are you craig davis?

      maybe some day i will write something, who knows

      and craig davis is just parroting and regurgitating right wing talking points that he’s sponged up from foxnews and breitbart. It doesn’t make for good reading. It’s “the libruls done it” as per usual.

  • max February 26, 2018 at 8:31 am

    It is beyond stupid to think that making something illegal will make it go away. It just doesn’t work with anything. Thousands of examples throughout history have shown time and time again that no matter what the law says, if you want something, you will be able to find it. And for those of you who cant think of any, here is a big one. DRUGS are illegal. Cocaine, Meth, Heroine, Marijuana. Illegal with the government, and illegal in the states, but yet, IT IS EVERYWHERE!. Prostitution is illegal, and yet it happens everyday, Sex trafficking is illegal and it happens everyday. Making guns illegal to own will be placed on the shelf with illegal drugs. Good law abiding citizens will avoid it, and criminals will be the only ones to have it. If you are so against the majority of the public having guns, just put your address on here with the title ” I do not have guns in my home to protect myself” and see how quickly you will wish you had one. One fact is for sure, If more people carried guns, and everybody knew it, especially those who seek to commit crimes, they would not act because of the presence of guns. You don’t see criminals breaking into police stations to mug them for their wallets. . . I wonder why…..

    • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 9:53 am

      The problem with the NRA and the Alt. Right is they think we want to ban all weapons, but we don’t, we just want to make sure people who shouldn’t have them can’t get them so easy. Yes many could get them on a black market, but every mass shooter to my knowledge got their guns legally. There is no need for people to own an AR-15 out side of our military and law enforcement. Even if we just changed the age to which you can buy a gun could have saved the lives of those 17 students and teachers. You can’t buy alcohol until your 21 and can’t rent a car until your 25, but guns you can buy at 18. When the military gives guns to 18 year old kids they train them to use it, and hunters have to take a hunters safety course. Why not to regular gun buyers? Still to this day no one can give me a reason.

      • bikeandfish February 26, 2018 at 1:18 pm

        Because the 2nd Amendment makes gun ownership an inalienable right different from the others. There is no such Constitutional right for alcohol. Military can dictate guides as its an organization not a right. Hunting is a permitted privilege so each state can set guidelines.

        The 2nd Amendment isn’t an unlimited in its meaning but legislation has a higher standard as the Amendment is explicitly a limit on government intervention. Forcing competency tests is never likely to pass Constitutional muster as it infringes on a citizen’s right to bear arms for lawful purpose, like self-defense. Going for such legislation is likely an over reach.

  • John February 26, 2018 at 9:36 am

    Comments, the US Military’s definition is the definition, not merriam webster..Last time I checked that was just a dictionary and anothe rliberal tool that makes up definitions to fool those like you who are of weak mind. They do not classify weapons.
    The U.S. Army defines assault rifles as “short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges.

    It must be capable of selective fire.

    Select-fire M2 Carbines are not assault rifles; their effective range is only 200 yards.
    Select-fire rifles such as the FN FAL battle rifle are not assault rifles; they fire full-powered rifle cartridges.
    Semi-automatic-only rifles like the Colt AR-15 are not assault rifles; they do not have select-fire capabilities.
    Semi-automatic-only rifles with fixed magazines like the SKS are not assault rifles; they do not have detachable box magazines and are not capable of automatic fire.
    If you strap some black PVC to your roof rack that would make your car an assault vehicle by this liberal definiton.. What a bunch of misinformed MSM following liberal lemmings

    • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 10:11 am

      Someone needs to add a select switch to your mouth.

      • John February 26, 2018 at 11:51 am

        Not gonna happen, proving you wrong is so much fun…get a clue..

      • comments February 26, 2018 at 12:14 pm

        the select switch on John’s brain is stuck on OFF, or maybe there’s setting for semi-idiotic and full-idiotic? I don’t think it can be fixed either.

  • John February 26, 2018 at 11:31 am

    New membership to the NRA is through the roof since this latest media circus. Happens every time the left tries to infuence an outcome, the opposite happens. Just look at what happened to gun sales when obama got elected. They tried so hard to get hillary elected , and they got Trump. Everything they try blows up in their faces, it’s like watching a road runner cartoon. Moral of the story? Look at what the left is doing, take the opposite side and you will win, happens every time.

    • PogoStik February 26, 2018 at 12:59 pm

      Yawn.

    • bikeandfish February 26, 2018 at 1:12 pm

      Curious, were are the daily/weekly membership #s that would be needed to make such a claim?

      • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 1:32 pm

        Automatic weapons sales have been restricted in the United States since the 1934 National Firearms Act was passed. Regulations put in place in 1986 made it much more difficult for civilian buyers to get an automatic weapon. You can still purchase an automatic weapon, because existing guns manufactured before May 19, 1986, were grandfathered in. That amounts to somewhere around 300,000 registered automatic weapons. To buy a fully automatic rifle, a prospective owner must pay the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms $200 and pass a federal background check that shows no record of domestic violence or felony convictions.
        As for Mike the assault weapons banned expired in 2004 and only a few states have passed there own laws. So yes assault weapons are still legal in all but a few states. Is there anything else I have to spoon feed you on my knowledge of weapons and the laws surrounding them.

        • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 1:35 pm

          Why did this post twice?

        • John February 26, 2018 at 2:01 pm

          Fully automatic weapons are highly regulated under both federal and state law. Only licensed entities are permitted to manufacture, sell, or own them. Private civilian ownership of machine guns is illegal unless the individual has been explicitly permitted by the federal ATF to own them. All fully automatic weapons must be registered with the federal government in a central registry with no exceptions. A special tax is levied on all NFA items (machine guns, suppressors, short-barreled rifles, short-barreled shotguns, and destructive devices) with no exceptions.
          These are not my opinions. They are cold, hard facts about gun laws in the United States.

          • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 10:47 pm

            You do realize this whole statement just made my comments below true even though you have denied that automatic weapons are legal in other statements. Make up your mind John.

      • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 1:34 pm

        Less than 2% of the US population is an NRA member according to their website. 5 million in total I would like to see Johns numbers as well.

    • John February 26, 2018 at 1:49 pm

      you are a misinformed know nothing liberal puppet.. YOU CAN”T BUY A FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPON LEGALLY..Under the NFA, it is illegal for any private civilian to own any fully automatic weapons manufactured after May 19, 1986. Only certain types of FFL/SOTs may make them, and then only for purchase by qualified state and federal agencies. There are no exceptions. According to the ATF’s official handbook on NFA laws and regulations, it’s not even legal to make new replacement parts for pre-1986 machine guns: “There is no exception allowing for the lawful production, transfer, possession, or use of a post-May 18, 1986 machinegun receiver as a replacement receiver on a weapon produced prior to May 19, 1986.”

      • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 2:09 pm

        It’s not legal to reproduce replacement parts for machine guns, but you can still buy an old one if it was made before May 19th 1986. You need to read your own words from the ATF. “There is no exception allowing for the lawful production, transfer, possession, or use of a post-May 18, 1986 machine gun receiver as a replacement receiver on a weapon produced prior to May 19, 1986.” This only says you cant use new parts on an old gun. You need to go back to grade school and learn how to read better.

        • John February 26, 2018 at 2:58 pm

          OK know nothing , take me to the place where you can buy the parts or a whole one for that matter. I have the money.. not to mention the $ 15000 to $50000 price tag after you spend $20000 to get an impossible to get permit.. YOU CAN”T BUY A FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPON LEGALLY..Under the NFA, it is illegal for any private civilian to own any fully automatic weapons manufactured after May 19, 1986. Only certain types of FFL/SOTs may make them, and then only for purchase by qualified state and federal agencies. There are no exceptions. According to the ATF’s official handbook on NFA laws and regulations, it’s not even legal to make new replacement parts for pre-1986 machine guns: “There is no exception allowing for the lawful production, transfer, possession, or use of a post-May 18, 1986 machinegun receiver as a replacement receiver on a weapon produced prior to May 19, 1986.”.. your new name is know nothing ! hahahahaha!

        • John February 26, 2018 at 4:37 pm

          Know nothing, I can sell every type of legal firearm in my shop. I can not sell or even display a working automatic weapon. You can’t just buy these things…No matter what Rachel Maddow tells you ! It’s simply against the law.. even the ones made before 1986..

          • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 5:51 pm

            So now you own a gun shop, that is convenient to this article, more likely a pawn shop. Spin us another tale John.

          • Mike February 26, 2018 at 9:28 pm

            John Thomsons are legal now! It started snowing again!

        • John February 26, 2018 at 9:19 pm

          Know nothing, It’s not my problem that you cannot accept facts. Still waiting for you to show me where this automatic weapons mart is. Or should I call it machine gun depot since you believe they are so easy to get. Maybe it’s called international house of things that scare the crap out of libtards?.. YOU CANNOT BUY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS>> I know whoopie “THE CUSHION”goldberg told you that you can.. Prove it..name one place that you can buy fully automatic weapons.. you can’t because the place does not exist..

          • No Filter February 26, 2018 at 10:43 pm

            Call this local company and ask for yourself. I never said it was easy or cheap, I just said it was legal. If you don’t believe them call any class III dealer of your choice and verify for yourself. My point is made I am done with your antics. Once again you are proven wrong John, deal with it.
            https://modernwarriors.com/contact/.

          • John February 27, 2018 at 1:30 pm

            Hey know nothing, looked at your auto weapons mart. There is not a single automatic weapon on there that a private citizen can buy. It is ILLEGAL. Notice the ones that are automatic are all marked LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY?.. Just as the LAW says.. You need to wear a hat with a picture of a brain on it so you can think that you have one…

          • No Filter February 27, 2018 at 3:11 pm

            Hey idiot what part of call don’t you understand. Your just scared to be proven wrong, admit it.

        • Mike February 26, 2018 at 9:26 pm

          Wow I guess I’m gonna go buy a Thomson machine gun there legal say no filter! Can’t wait!

          • John February 26, 2018 at 11:01 pm

            Mike, ..We can get know nothing to bring us to this magical machine gun vending machine…He can drive us there in his prius with the flames on the fenders to make it go faster..

          • Mike February 27, 2018 at 7:29 am

            Funny!

        • John February 27, 2018 at 4:02 pm

          No filter, you are the IDIOT, Private citizens can’t buy automatic weapons, and that company said over the phone,unless you are a LAW enforcement agency you can’t buy one, Its against the law. You are a MORON and a brainless one at that. Your name is no brain.

  • comments February 26, 2018 at 10:39 pm

    craig davis the right wing troll

    73+ comments

    I guess this idiot got the attention he was craving.

    • John February 27, 2018 at 9:05 am

      Too bad for you then. It must suck to always be wrong and sound delusional, comments? you should know !

        • John February 27, 2018 at 7:49 pm

          no brain, I know what the law is. It’s my business.. Give it up already moron ! You can’t buy automatic weapons as a private citizen PERIOD! and the plastic ones they sell on the inside covers of your comic books next to the sea monkeys don’t count..

          • No Filter February 28, 2018 at 9:27 am

            Working at the Wal-mart gun counter does not qualify you as an expert. Is the spectrum fake news?

        • John February 28, 2018 at 10:41 am

          and for your information… automatic weapons are illegal in ALL 50 STATES by FEDERAL LAW.. newsweek is another liberal propaganda pusher, if you believe them you must believe madcow too…., you really just don’t get it..

          • No Filter February 28, 2018 at 11:14 am

            Um I posted the spectrum as well, you know the local St. George news other than STGNews.com

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